Vortech Supercharger

Holden -

If you happen to be online, any chance you could respond to the question I posted in the advanced "engine timing thread"?

i talked to vortech si, who i guess works at vortech on clubsi.com, he basically told me that the SI kit will be available soon, and the integra GSR kit later on in the 01 year or something, i asked about an ITR kit, and he said theres no plans for it, but that it should be similar to the SI kit.......

From the pic of the SI on their site it seems the PS pump is still in its regular place, at least the PS line is still leading there.. so the pump is either under that shielding or it's been disconnected altogether.

civic teaser page

Is it a possibility that they replace the PS pump assembly with another unit that integrates the SC pulley into it?

Also, in terms of compatibility, what would the main issues be with regards to cross-over from one 'teg kit to another? is there an engine/fuel management component that would have to be specific to model? or would it just be piping placement/mounting?

just wondering..

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Did he say anything else about the setup how much boost, fuel setings, anything?? I have know about the VS for a while and when I call them for info they just pushed me off. Oh well I hope someone gets one soon so we can see the differance?
thanks

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95 GSR 4-DR Greddy exhaust and header, AEM CaI, Field Vtec controller, Power slots and metal axxis pads.
Eibach Pro springs, Tokico illuminas, Progress 22mm rear sway bar.

holden: whaz UP!--hey mann...little too late as usual for da rednecks ta catch uppty wid da import scene!--cuz by the f--k'n time those monkeys come outty wid the SC kit for da teg...da G4 will be outty and nobody will give a rat's azz bout this shitz! either that or everymutha will be drive'n they ba-itch azz VW mobile. bottom line is how much da hell they gonna charge for that P.O.S.? cuz JRSC already gots da jump and da price is gonna determine everythang wid cheapie monkeys like me! oh yeah, that civic heap burnt a piston cuz they was run'n da shitz wid no det prevent...ka--BOOM! trixx are for kids...

peace.

Oh, man!! I gettin' scared now COZ i 'most unner-standin Code 10-54!!! When I first started with this site a couple months ago, I was always like, "WTF is this guy saying??"
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Nice thread gang, but a little clarification. Both a JRSC and the Vortech are Positive displacement, the difference being the Vortech is a Centrifugal compressor with design more similar to the internals of a turbo, the difference being the turbo spools-up on increasing exhaust driving the impeller where the vortech and similar units gear-up using a step-up larger drive/small driven gear. They do lag but you don't notice it on a V8, I suspect you will on the 1.6 VTEC, you may even have less torque out of the hole.

The JRSC is a screw compressor which uses reduced oulet size to compress the air within the blower case and the boost is linear with the displacement. ( BTW a roots blower, like a 6-71 is an External non-positive displacement compressor as the pressure is developed in the intake manifold.)


The Vortech looks like a nice unit, I've done A bunch of R and S trim units on various 5.0's and F-body GM's. Vortech make good equipment, well thought-out and complete. I already carry the Jackson line, looks like I'll set-up for these babys, too.

Wize 1

Here's my opinion on the Vortech kit. I saw it at an import event several months back. I wasn't too impressed. The install seems incredibly complex. I am not a fan of centrifugal superchargers in general. IMO, get a roots blower for the instant response otherwise get a turbo. There are a few advantages to centrifugal blowers but it's not my cup of tea. It is nice to see another SC kit out there to compete with JR though.

I have been told the Si kit is due out next month.

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Marc
1997 Civic EX, Supercharged

I was hanging out at a local performance shop today and saw a brochure for the Vortech Supercharger kit.

Here are some comments:

1) It's about time JR had some competition!

2) They claim a 95hp increase. This sounds like the kit is either 6psi (if the intercooler works well) or 8psi. They don't say. Blow-off valves also promoted on the brochure mentioned 8psi. I don't know if these were upgrades or replacements.

3) The drive shaft is enclosed in a housing. Feel free to wear your neck ties!

4) The compressor (5G?) can flow (claimed by Vortech) enough to support over 500hp, so if the intercooler works well, this kit could handle serious upgrades.

5) Where the hell does the PS pump go? The pictures in the brochure clearly showed A/C lines, so the PS pump doesn't go there. My best guess is that they lower the alternator a la JR and put the PS pump where the nose of the JR blower ends up.

No pricing or availability info.

Anyone know anything else?

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Greg Holden
96 GSR, JSRC @6psi, AEM CAI/RSR 4-2-1/Greddy PE, Cartech 20005/Walbro GSS-342, KYB AGX/H&R OE Sport/ST 19mm Rear Swaybar
Best 1/4 ==> 13.937 @ 101.41mph
My JRSC Install Site

Greg,

Although I haven't seen the Vortex charger in person, I saw it in the ads from Velocity mag (I signed up for that $200 rebate from JR). From what I've seen in the pic (which seems to be a Type R engine, the power steering pump is still there..right underneat the Vortex (or whatever part of that charger).

The power steering pump is new... it is replaced because the jackshaft had to pass through the middle of it: so Vortech simply created a new P/S pump with a bearing to accomodate this.

SCC was bouncing the Si off the rev-limiter at sustained HIGH speeds... go try this with your car, and the results will probably be just like theirs.


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'93 Civic Si H/B with B18C1, JRSC @ 8psi
Best 1320: 12.68 at 110 mph